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Annette Nolen
Red Frog Freight
Red-Frog
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Posted - 2013.11.24 15:26:00 -
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Hey, awesome tool!
I'm not sure if this is something I just can't figure out how to do, or if it's a feature that doesn't exist... is there a way for the ISK, Tracker, and other equivalent tools to include the collateral and items on courier contracts as part of your assets as appropriate?
In particular, the behavior I expected (but don't see and can't figure out how to enable) is that when I have issued a courier contract the items in the contract would continue to be counted under my "assets" and collateral is ignored (not included in any total). When I have accepted a courier contract the collateral would be counted under my escrows and the items in the plastic wrap would be ignored (not included in any total). |
Annette Nolen
Red Frog Freight
Red-Frog
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Posted - 2013.11.24 21:30:00 -
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Golden Gnu wrote:2) Collateral is included in the contracts API. If you could give me some use case examples of how to ignore it, that would be great :)
For the person running the courier, what would be nice is that for a Courier contract with a status of "InProgress", the collateral amount would be added to the "Escrow" total (as seen in summaries like Tracker, Isk, Overview, etc.) for the character in the "Acceptor" field from the Contracts tool. If a character has accepted a courier contract, the collateral value has been removed from their wallet balance but there's every expectation that it will be returned (assuming successful contract completion). However right now that ISK just disappears for a while, leading to many dips and gaps in the totals shown on the summaries.
On the flip side for the person setting up the courier, what I'd hoped was that for Courier contracts with a status of "Outstanding" or "InProgress", the items inside would remain in the Assets of the Issuer (or IssuerCorp), since again the expectation is that the items still belong to them and will be back in a hangar upon successful completion. However since that is not possible with the existing API, the next best thing may be to include the Collateral amount in the "Sell Orders" total for the Issuer/IssuerCorp. As it is now the assets just disappear for a while, again leading to many dips and gaps in the totals shown on the summaries.
Escrow/Sell Orders makes the most sense to me as "holding places" for the collateral ISK/asset value since, on the Acceptor side, you have effectively agreed to a buy order at the collateral price for the contract items if the contract fails, and on the Issuer side you have effectively agreed to a sell order of those items at the collateral price if the contract fails.
Any Courier status other than "Outstanding" or "InProgress" can be totally ignored since completed, failed, or deleted contracts have already returned the collateral ISK and contract items to the correct wallets/hangars, so no additional tracking is required at that point.
Oh, and somewhat related... any chance of having the contract status added to the "Contracts" tool? I notice it shows up in the API but it doesn't show up as a column I can filter on in jEVEAssets.
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Annette Nolen
Red Frog Freight
Red-Frog
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Posted - 2013.11.24 21:53:00 -
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Looking at the current behavior I think something particular to my usage is that the character actually holding on to the plastic wrap for the duration of the courier in my case isn't one I track at all with jEVEAssets, so the collateral-offsetting value of the items in the courier plastic wrap doesn't show up anywhere either.
However, I wouldn't actually want it to anyway. In addition to the above changes, it would be nice if items inside a "Plastic Wrap" container were NOT included in my assets (or in the value of my assets in the summary totals). Items in a plastic wrap don't really belong to me unless and until I break the plastic wrap, at which point they become mine and the courier contract the plastic wrap was attached to becomes incompletable.
I think the combination of showing collateral in escrow/sell orders for acceptor/issuer of outstanding/inprogress couriers, and not including items inside a plastic wrap container in my asset list, would much more accurately represent what is actually happening with couriers. |
Annette Nolen
Red Frog Freight
Red-Frog
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Posted - 2013.11.25 12:26:00 -
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Golden Gnu wrote:I never tested this myself and to save time, I'll just ask:
Are items inside plastic wrap, really added to you assets, when you accept a courier contract?
Yep... they show up in the general assets tool and their value is added to the assets category for things like tracker, overview, etc. Here's a screenshot of a plastic wrap and items inside it in my assets... basically it seems to treat it just like any other container: http://i.imgur.com/vKw4inQ.png
Also, the game knows which plastic wrap belongs to which courier contract. I'm guessing the asset/contract API doesn't return this data, but on the off chance that the API DOES return this info it would be awesome to be able to link the plastic wrap to the courier contract in jEVEAssets :) |
Annette Nolen
Red Frog Freight
Red-Frog
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Posted - 2014.01.21 15:05:00 -
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Norrin Ellis wrote:Since updating to jEveAssets 2.7.3, price data will not update.
Yep, same thing is happening to me too. |
Annette Nolen
Red Frog Freight
Red-Frog
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Posted - 2014.01.24 03:37:00 -
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Golden Gnu wrote:@Norrin Ellis, Annette Nolen
I will look into it later today.
For now I suggest you change the price source:
Options > Options... > Price Data
...That is the most obvious fix, I did not try it myself ;)
In my case it seems to be an error getting price data for item types 33578 and 33579 from EVE Central. EVE Central is returning a 400 error with "A non-marketable type was given" when jEveAssets tries to fetch prices for those item IDs. I will try some of the other price sources when I get a chance...
INFO [AWT-EventQueue-0] net.nikr.eve.jeveasset.io.online.PriceDataGetter - Price data loading (Eve-Central.com):
ERROR [Price Fetching] uk.me.candle.eve.pricing.impl.EveCentral - Error fetching price
java.io.IOException: Server returned HTTP response code: 400 for URL: http://api.eve-central.com/api/marketstat?typeid=18881&typeid=28514&typeid=27557&typeid=27646&typeid=27647&typeid=27644&typeid=27779&typeid=15798&typeid=33578&typeid=18841&typeid=33579&typeid=27569&typeid=27855&typeid=19111&typeid=19109&typeid=3408&typeid=11443&typeid=19341&typeid=18853&typeid=28377&typeid=23079&typeid=18873&typeid=4058&typeid=27604&typeid=18869&typeid=27540&typeid=20110&typeid=19019&usesystem=30000142&hours=96
at sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.getInputStream(Unknown Source)
at uk.me.candle.eve.pricing.AbstractPricing.getDocument(AbstractPricing.java:177)
at uk.me.candle.eve.pricing.impl.EveCentral.fetchPrices(EveCentral.java:124)
at uk.me.candle.eve.pricing.AbstractPricing$PriceFetchingThread.run(AbstractPricing.java:436)
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Annette Nolen
Red Frog Freight
Red-Frog
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Posted - 2014.01.25 04:06:00 -
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Golden Gnu wrote:@Annette Nolen
I consider this a Eve-Central bug, not a jEveAssets bug.
Yeah switching to the eve-marketdata.com source seems to work just fine so I'm all sorted out :)
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Annette Nolen
Red Frog Freight
Red-Frog
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Posted - 2014.05.16 04:40:00 -
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Norrin Ellis wrote:I receive an error on Market Orders and Assets that says "Not enough access privileges." I have not changed the API keys used since upgrading to 2.8.0.
Yeah, getting this too. Log says:
INFO [SwingWorker-pool-2-thread-9] net.nikr.eve.jeveasset.io.shared.AbstractApiGetter - Locations failed to update for: Annette Nolen (Request 1 of 1) (NOT ENOUGH ACCESS PRIVILEGES)
I will try adding the "Locations" option to my API key and see if that works. |
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